I'm sorry to hear you are so discouraged. I agree that hypnotherapy is a bit of an uphill battle. However, it is better than it was when I started practicing full time ten years ago. Oh, and talk about a challenge, that was at the cusp of the "Great Recession" here in America, and the Phoenix Arizona area at that time was generally considered second only to Las Vegas Nevada in the number of foreclosures and houses "under water." It never stopped me, and my practice has grown every year! (And, BTW, I always recommend at least four sessions.)
Based on your "burgers" comment, I assume you didn't see "The Founder" film, or know the story. While yes, people knew about hamburgers and ate them, they usually ate them at home, or at a drive-in where a young waitress brought the order to their car and placed it on a tray (on plates) that hung on the driver's window. It was SLOW, the food was often delivered wrong or cooked improperly, and those drive-ins tended to attract rough characters. They were not family friendly!
No one before the McDonald brothers served food wrapped in paper in that type of venue. No one served it immediately, and few if any had the type of mass-production and quality control they instituted in their flagship restaurant. This approach was as revolutionary as Henry Ford with his mass-produced Model T!
Let's return to hypnotherapy. My post was really about drug addiction. At least two, possibly more, well-known/successful rehab facilities (both in California) make extensive use of hypnotherapy. They have for years. In America we don't have socialized medicine, so big companies such as GM, Intel, Boeing, Honeywell, Exxon and Apple spend $25,000-$50,000 per drug-addicted employee for their rehab services. And, I'm talking (mostly) a month or two of a multidisciplinary residential program. So, if I, or you, could reliably and with let's say 75% success rate turn an addict into a non-addict in a couple of hours, do you really think no company, no media outlet, no celebrity would be interested?
Dr. Oz, has promoted hypnotherapy for weight loss on two of his programs, to my knowledge. And, here is the list of "celebrities" who successfully stopped smoking with hypnosis:
Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Samuel L. Jackson, Winona Ryder, Aaron Eckhart, Katie Cassidy, Paul Rudd, Charlize Theron, Debra Messing, Courteney Cox, and David Arquette (to name a few).
For better or worse, these actors have a global audience. They personally have known friends and colleagues who died of a drug overdose. They know people NOW that they worry about! Their names got on this list because they talked publicly about hypnosis. Do you really think that NONE of them would be singing your praises or anyone's praises who can in an almost guaranteed manner end addiction in one session? No media interest? No SOCIAL MEDIA interest? Wouldn't a parent whose son or daughter you just saved be spreading the word on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.? In ONE session? For a few hundred dollars--not thousands? No ongoing treatment necessary? No negative side effects?
I'm sorry, your explanation strains my credibility. I know too many parents who would give ANYTHING to save the life of their child and help them immediately get off drugs--and permanently! I think you could use leeches and if it worked, they would do it!
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I think it is a good thing when hypnotherapists get involved in addiction services. Multi-disciplinary approaches are fine! However, I believe hypnosis needs to be a key component. Without it, we have the terrible track record of most rehab facilities worldwide (10% success rate). Yet, I am concerned about this paragraph from your post:
I think three of the pillars of successful addiction treatment are the removing the client from their current environment and providing support in the way of substituting, not simply removing things and of course treating any underlying conditions.
IF the root cause is discovered and healed, and as I said, it is most often anxiety, the "current environment" and "substituting" are less important. I do note that you added "treating any underlying conditions," but was that an afterthought? You might be interested to know that after treating their anxiety (usually) I have had smokers continue with their friends who all smoked, drinkers continue going to bars and daily marijuana smokers continue with their pothead friends! They never "relapsed!" When the healing is done fully and properly, they are not tempted. And, over time, they will probably find new friends of their own volition.
It is true that I have not worked with those who were injecting heroin, and probably going back to a heroin den wouldn't be a good idea, but I found the most important thing in terms of permanently ending destructive habits/addictions is the work in the subconscious mind. Eliminate the cause and you eliminate the problem.
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Hi Michael! Glad to have another local Arizona hypnotherapist jump in the fray!
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what you are saying, other than the Wikipedia jab. I am well aware of the origin and process of that website, and also know that since others can edit it, the results tend to conform to general thinking. If not, why does it do so well in Google searches? Obviously, many millions of people rely on that information. Besides, in terms of "Occam's Razor" I think you are splitting hairs.
But let's get back to the patient/client. [quote="Michael Bucy, CH"]
YES! Thank you, Barry, for suggesting the possibility of undiagnosed MI/SMI. This could be the first psychotic episode requiring acute intervention by trained specialists. [/quote] [/quote]
Well, I think we all should have enough education in psychology to understand psychosis, and to be able to differentiate someone who is psychotic from someone who is neurotic. So yes, if the practitioner has no idea about the difference, I would agree someone else should be working with that patient. However, mainstream medicine seems to discount completely the whole "voices in my head" phenomenon, and tends to characterize that as psychotic when there are no other indications. In doing so, they ignore the hundreds of well-known writers, song writers and musicians who have talked about the song or words "coming through them" rather than from them! Do you think Paul Simon, Bob Dylan and Paul McCartney are psychotic? I know novelists have gone on record saying similar things, but I can't recall their names off the top of my head.
So yes, I am skeptical of some of those "Serious Mental Illness" diagnoses. Since you used the term, I'm sure you know that here in Arizona that applies also to anxiety disorders, PTSD and other non-psychotic conditions. And yes, I do feel qualified to tell the difference between someone who is psychotic. If you question that, please check out the Credentials page of my website. I tried to do that with you, but alas your website only has one page "in progress" I guess.
I also outlined how I have helped at least one patient, actually multiple patients, who were diagnosed as psychotic or prescribed anti-psychotic meds. And, as we know, hypnotherapy isn't useful for truly psychotic people, so how did I do that? If you don't know that the traditional medical establishment is OWNED by the pharmaceutical companies, I suggest that you do some research on that topic!
You can start here:
"Who will Guard the Guardians of Psychiatry"
"Depression is NOT a Chemical Imbalance"
The first is written by a retired psychologist, and the second is commented on by a family physician who treated "thousands of depressed patients."
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My experience is very similar to that of Holly's in most areas. However, I have not found Skype sessions to be as valuable as those in my office. Not even close. They are better than nothing, but in my experience they are maybe 50% as effective. It could be an energy thing, or some other reason. That is my experience.
I totally agree with Holly on aversion therapy. And, I'd like to continue my skepticism about 1-2 session addiction solutions. While I suspect progress can be made, perhaps short term that LOOKS like success, but how is that person doing 1-5-10 years later?
Call me crazy, but right now in America almost 150,000 (or over 400 a day) die from drug overdoses. Just to put that in perspective 40,000 Americans died in 2016 in traffic accidents, which may be a new high. So, if I had a GUARANTEED, PERMANENT solution to drug addiction that could be performed in just one or two sessions, I would charge $500 a session and the line would be out my door and around the block! Is anyone doing that? I was just at HTLive in Las Vegas. I could be wrong, but I doubt there was anyone there with a Ferrari or anything that approached that level of success. In fact, most seemed to be struggling financially. And, let's remember that sample was of those who could afford the average cost of $1,000 in total to attend the conference. How many didn't go because they couldn't afford it?
So please, if you SAY you can do this, and regularly do this, please send me a photo of yourself in front of your Ferrari or Lamborghini--or maybe Bentley if that is your style! How about in front of your million-dollar home? And, if you say you have done it, or do it regularly and you DON'T have that type of proof of your success, please tell me why. I have had multiple people in my office who have personally spent, or their employer spent $30,000 and up for rehab treatment. Mostly with a poor success rate. Yet, wouldn't they much rather spend two sessions and a thousand dollars for hypnotherapy, rather than a month or more in (ineffective) rehab?
Where is your list of celebrity clients? On my website, I have a list of celebrities who successfully quit smoking with hypnotherapy (none were my clients). And, we know many have terrible drug habits. Where is that list? If a celebrity permanently kicked the habit/addiction in just two sessions, wouldn't they be touting the method to the world? To save thousands of lives?
And, if you charged less, wouldn't you be booked a year in advance? Recently, I treated a hair stylist/salon owner who was booked that far in advance for (very expensive) haircuts. That is what happens for services that are very much in demand and are VALUABLE.
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I am in the USA, so I can't recommend someone. I am very sorry to hear there are people in Belgium who actually are taught and believe many issues can be cured (permanently?) in just one session! I have one competitor in my market who has been selling that line for years!
In America, I would estimate that close to 90% of the population could use hypnotherapy services. We have almost 70% with weight alone, add in drugs, alcohol, anxiety, etc. and I think that is a fair estimate. So, my question always is for those who espouse a one-session approach . . . "If you were REALLY able to accomplish this, wouldn't you be booked in advance for years?" Who WOULDN'T pay a few hundred dollars to permanently correct these issues with no side effects and no continuing costs?
Now, on to "porn addiction." First I would recommend you change your terminology. "Addicted" in my world means that if the person stops doing it, let's say heroin, they have strong withdrawal symptoms. In addition, addicts usually need larger and larger doses over time as the body gets accustomed to the drug. Is there an aspect of this supposed "porn addiction" that fits that definition? The problem with using this label (I believe) is that you don't leave any space for the person to heal and change. "I'm an addict, nothing I can do will help." BTW, I would say the same about other stupid "addictions" like "sex addict."
Are there people who negatively affect their lives with a habit or compulsion to look at porn? Sure! Have I treated any? Sure! Is that any different than the man or woman who is 50-100 lbs. overweight with their compulsion to eat? Of course not! Yes, these can be powerful subconscious forces, but that is my/our playing field!
So, I don't think you need an "addiction or porn addiction" specialist. How would you treat the person if they ate or drank too much? I'm guessing the same approach would work just fine! I work to figure out what is really going on, what is the benefit of his viewing porn, what is he avoiding? What childhood messages or experiences may be involved and then do some good old-fashioned effective hypnotherapy to release the crap and insert some positive messages!
If you think this client is difficult, try dealing with the MANY clients I have had who were sexually abused before the age of ten!
I hope that helps!
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Tempe, Arizona, USA
I see you are studying with Dr. John Butler. I met him once at an ACHE Conference and have great respect for his knowledge and abilities! Have you posed the question to him?
I will say right now that as far as I'm concerned the jury is still out on muscle testing. I don't think it is a reliable indicator. Over the years, I have also known people who used it to make almost all decisions, and that scares me! ;-)
Back to your situation. Does he REALLY believe something in him is touching him? It may be possible that he uses ailments for attention and since you were successful with the IBS, he seeks another avenue to be a sick victim. You might want to find out how his parents do or did treat him when sick. Without realizing it, I find many parents teach their kids to be sick by giving them undo attention at those times, and much less when they are healthy.
Assuming that isn't the problem, have you considered the possibility that he really is possessed? Does he have an extensive history with drugs and/or alcohol? As every Mormon or New Ager will tell you, habitual use of those substances creates holes in the aura that can allow such possession to happen. I would not discount the possibility.
In my practice, I have only dealt with one such individual. When he came to me he had been placed on anti-psychotic meds, yet he maintained a normal life and was employed full time. First I explained to him that he wasn't psychotic/schizophrenic. Then I worked on his anxiety and when his life started to get better, it was easier for us to differentiate the inputs from his "demon." In this case it was a "she." We figured out the things he did that she liked and what he did that she disliked. Basically, she wanted him to be unemployed and home all the time, seemingly so she could torture him easily!
We came to a place where I encouraged him to "fight back" and DO the things that bugged her. I portrayed it as a battle of wills, and that he could defeat her! Of course, the things I encouraged him to do in his life were all positive changes or continuations anyway. I should note that he never got messages to hurt himself or others. Nevertheless, the approach worked and as "she" realized that she couldn't run his life, the messages diminished. At some point his life was normal enough that he no longer needed my services.
I have no idea whether this in fact was a demon or something else manifested in his subconscious. I DO believe they exist and have known people who were most likely possessed, and also had patients who had loved ones who seemed to be possessed. If you are sensitive, you can feel when someone else seems to be controlling a loved one or a good friend. Their actions at times are very unlike them!
I know some people who do shamanic work in this area. I would love to learn more about this phenomenon so I could be even more helpful if I ever come across it again.
I hope that has been helpful.
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I find it quite humorous for someone with your background and credentials to arrogantly look down your nose at me! Wow, sir! You have been practicing for less than 5 years! And, OMG, you were trained by "Kathy Moore!" Well I had not heard of her, so I looked at her website. Perhaps it escaped me, but I could not find any reference to the school that trained and certified her. It also seems that SHE certifies her graduates rather than one of the well-known professional accreditation organizations. Did you know that on my wall I have a CHT certification from the International Medical and Dental Hypnotherapy Association and a CCHT from the American Council of Hypnotist Examiners? Did you know that both organizations have a carefully-curated list of schools that they will accept as valid preparation. Gee, I wonder if Kathy Moore's school is on either of those lists? Well, since the list is easily accessible, I looked at the ACHE approved schools in Texas. Two schools only are approved and drum roll please . . . nope, your Kathy Moore didn't make the cut! Oh, and funny how my teacher Zoilita Grant's school is the only ACHE approved school in Colorado!
However, I like to be open minded. Just because it seems there is no comparison between your hypnotherapy training and mine, perhaps we should look deeper at our teachers. Let's see, according to her website she has an MBA. Unfortunately, she doesn't say her major. Was it communication? Journalism? Accounting? We don't know. However she does say: "Take advantage of Kathy’s years as a newspaper editor. Let her edit your hypnosis scripts for better results. She can even help you learn how to publish your own hypnosis manuals or produce your own TV or radio show."
Oh, how relevant! I'm sure she would be a great person to learn about being a public relations consultant! I am a PR fan, but unfortunately, that isn't hypnotherapy! So, let's do a bit of digging into the background of my teacher Zoilita Grant, M.S., CCHt. I will admit I don't know her specialty for her Master's Degree, but I do know that previously she was a licensed professional counselor in California. And, here is how she summarizes her background: "I am an internationally-known expert in hypnosis, which I have been practicing for nearly 40 years. During that time I created a line of Hypnosis CDs for the public, wrote twenty-seven books for hypnosis practitioners, founded the Colorado Coaching and Hypnotherapy Training Institute, and learned five styles of hypnosis, which I now practice exclusively as a coach."
Now James, anyone can Say they are an "internationally-known expert" right? Well, I won't bore you with all of her accomplishments, but if you check the website for the prestigious ACHE, you will find her name listed as Vice President. I know she has also held other prestigious positions in related professional organizations.
So, let's see James, you looked down your nose at me and basically called me a "conspiracy nut." Now after perusing YOUR website, you seem to have some additional training other than from Kathy Moore and certifications from organizations that frankly are new to me. However, what about education and professional experience? "as well as a Masters Degree in English. In addition to hypnosis, he has enjoyed success as a college instructor, freelance writer, champion storyteller, published author, and professional musician."
Well I am pleased to learn you are an educated man! Unfortunately, there is no mention of any degrees or coursework in psychology on your website. Hmmmmm. In contrast, as was previously stated on this thread, not only is my undergraduate degree in psychology, but my psychology GRE score was at the 99th percentile. Oh, and yes my master's is an MBA, but my major was Industrial Psychology. And yet, Mr. English Major, you are attempting to correct MY thinking on deep psychological principles such as repression?
Oh but wait! According to your website you specialize in "Hypnosis for Musicians," "Hypnosis for Ballroom Dance," "Hypnosis for Belly Dancers" and "Stage Hypnosis." So, James, do you invite people on stage and get them to quack like a duck?
Anyway, I apologize for pulling your chain and having a bit of fun with you. I'm sure you are a fine fellow. You are just out of your league son! If you are going to argue psychology with someone who REALLY KNOWS PSYCHOLOGY, please at least have some educational standing in the field! But more importantly, PLEASE do not give credence to those who would discount memories of abuse that are recalled in therapy or hypnotherapy! Have you actually EVER worked with an abused patient? I mean seriously? I doubt it. The emotions are so deep and raw and the damage is so pervasive, I doubt you could take the positions you have if you had much experience working with people whose lives WERE CHANGED as a result of childhood abuse.
If I am correct, you will respond, because I doubt you will want to give me the last word. That's okay, now that I know your background and your level of expertise, I would be happy to continue it. (Hypnosis for Belly Dancers? Now that gave me a chuckle!) ;-)
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